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THE MARIE FORLEO PODCASTHOSTED BYMARIE FORLEO

Named by Oprah as a thought leader for the next generation and one of Inc.’s 500 fastest growing companies, Marie Forleo’s goal is to help you become the person you most want to be. In this show, Marie and her guests share actionable strategies for greater happiness, success, motivation, creativity, productivity, love, health, contribution and fulfillment — often with a lot of laughs. From business, marketing and career advice, to tackling failure, disappointment and fear, to philanthropy and doing our part to make the world a more loving, just and equitable place — we cover it all. Get inspired, grow stronger, more confident and create a business and life you genuinely love. Have a question or topic you’d like to see covered on the show? Go to marieforleo.com/marietv.

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When you are going through the depths of true heartbreak where you are a zombie and you feel like you can't function, you can't eat, you can't sleep, you don't know what to do with yourself. You are just on the outside of your own life. Going through the motions. The idea of someone coming along and saying, I've got 3 tips. You wanna slap them. Like, you want You don't have you have idea. You know, people it's a bit like, you know, I always love the the moment in the movie inside out where joy keeps, you know, all joy knows is how to try to come along and inject joy into the situation. And bing bong is like having a terrible time. And Joy comes over, and she's like, it's not so bad because this and that and the other thing, and he just can't hear any of it. And then sadness comes along and sits next to bing bong and says, that's really sad. What's happened to you? And he says, yeah. It is. And it's he starts to feel better. And it's because it wasn't he didn't need joy coming along and, like, reframing for him in that moment. Guilty. Yeah. He he needed, like, someone to come along and sit in how hard of a time he was going. He was grieving. Yeah. And someone to come and sit in that grief with them. And that's a kind of I feel like there's a more and more it seems to be a bit of a lost art. These days because we do live and, you know, I I have contributed to this, but in this sort of self development optimization, how can I stop you feeling bad as quick as possible culture that doesn't really allow us time to to truly grieve? And I I know in my life that grieving is something I have not done enough of. You know, I sat with David Kessler. Who's, you know, one of the world leading experts on grief. And and I

Hey there. I'm Marie Forleo. And for the last 20 years, I've helped millions of people transform their businesses and lives. If you're ready to make the difference you were born to make, get ready because this is the Marie Forleo Podcast. Today you are in for such a treat because my guest is truly a creative genius. Sara Jones is a Tony and Obie award winning playwright and performer best known for her multi character one woman shows. Called A Master of the Genre by The New York Times, Sarah's work is celebrated for its humanitarian approach to character and story through the lens of multiculturalism. The daughter of 2 physicians and the product of a multiracial, multiethnic family and community, she was interested from an early age in both the welfare and cultural backgrounds of her diverse relatives, neighbors, and friends. She's a regular guest on public radio and has appeared on Charlie Rose, The Today Show, CBS Sunday Morning, and Sesame Street, as well as in her own special, The Sarah Jones Show on Bravo. Her 3 multi character TED Talks have received millions of views and she's currently developing new multimedia projects based on her characters. Sarah? I'm so excited to have you here. Yay. I can't take it. I know we're just talking off camera. This is like the most exciting thing. I've admired you for so long. I told everyone, like, you are about to witness a creative genius, and I am just thrilled that you took the time to be here with us today. Oh, I'm so happy to be here, and the feeling is mutual. The admiration is mutually long. It's good. I'm so happy to be here. So let's let's take it back to the cornerstone of your work, which is really a piece of it is about being culturally inquisitive. And through your wide array of characters you morph across gender and age and ethnic barriers. Can you share how this all began? Well, it's funny. I sort of had no choice in the matter. I was born to a multicultural family. And, you know, on my father's side

Where she says, I tell my clients to pay attention to their envy because it shows them what they want. Mhmm. And that just dropped. I mean, again, going to this idea that you don't know how your book will impact someone, I really I could probably tell you nothing, almost nothing about the rest of her book even though it's a fantastic book, but that idea just stuck in my head. And because I realized in that moment two things. First, I noticed that I immediately rejected the idea that I could possibly be envy of another woman. Like, it was like, oh, no. Never. Not me. Never. Not me. And then, secondly, I couldn't identify what I wanted. Interesting. And so that was a revelation. And when I asked her about it, I asked her, is this more gendered? And she said, you know, I don't know the data, but I have noticed in my practice that women are very uncomfortable with things that they think are bad or unlikable qualities. It's like they have a much harder time owning them Yeah. Which makes complete sense. So that was in my head. And then in January, I went to do this media conference in Miami, and it was all media executives from every single big outlet, and I was being interviewed on stage. And I'm pretty good with the crowd. This was a couple weeks before the Netflix show came out, and Jesse Hempel was interviewing me. He was at LinkedIn, and we were having a great conversation. I could not connect with the crowd. Like, it was so disconcerting. It was a a lot of men crossed arms. I could feel their anger and dismissiveness toward me. Yeah. And I'd never had an experience like that. It was so weird. And then I had

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